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Doug Total posts: 804 Doug McKeown2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Location: Geneseo |
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: GP Rocker Panel Rust |
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They all seem to get it if driven in the winter around here. I noticed it right away on my Duaghters 99 GP SE because it dosen't have the plastic moldings there like the GT or GTP has. I fiber glass cloth and Dura glassed them, painted and put some GT moldings on it. Not to bad looking and certainly cheap. It stopped slush and dirt from entering the rocker inside area and rusting them completley.
Looking at my 98 GTP I am seeing the rust on floor board near the rockers plastic molding, so I figure it is rusted there like the 99 was.
Has anyone (Cary?) had new metal welded in, if so, where and how much did it cost. Waht did you use for the welded in part? _________________ 2001 Silver GTP coup 11.880@116.17 Fun Driver
1998 SilverMyst GTP sedan 13.716 Sold
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redross17 Total posts: 3600 Brian Ross2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Location: Buffalo Age: 48 |
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I remember a veerrrry old thread about rusted rockers...I think someone had new metal welded in? Pat Smith / 1997isawful? _________________ 2018 Acadia
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seen96 Total posts: 2033
Drag Radials Suck on FWD.1997 Grand Prix GT Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: elbows deep in 4t65e Age: 46 |
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, you can get replacement sheetmetal for those areas. A friend of mine that works at a body shop for a living confirmed that. I've got the same problem....but worse. Since I have nothing blocking the hole the gravel, rocks, sometimes water flying into the cabin. I probably vacuum out a lb. of crap every few mo. _________________ ZZP stuff...
Heads (started as ZZP stg.3 with some improvements)
Cam (XPZ with a slightly different components for valve movment)
IC (Ford Cobra coolant resv., frt exchr the size of a engine rad. weight consum. rear expans. tank)
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: |
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pat did.
they is pics in the showroom on this site _________________ New Era performance
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Doug Total posts: 804 Doug McKeown2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Location: Geneseo |
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Any idea what it cost to have a body shop weld them in? |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: |
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I had a BAD problem with that, mostly passenger side Doug. The body shop I dealt with said the problem with getting new metal from GM was that it's all one freakin piece. A, B, C pillars and rockers all in one, which new was like $800 IIRC.
I called Ed Morad and he finally found a 4 door that wasn't rusty (took awhile however) He then cut the whole rocker section off and sent it to my body shop. He charged me like $350 sent (which was less than half of buying a new gm piece) BUT, the body shop guy said putting it in wasn't all that easy. Labor was like $1100 to completely cut out the passenger side and replace, as well as install a few patches on the driver's side and repair/paint any bad areas there as well. So it cost me around $1500 to put the car right again. Cheaper than buying a new car, but painfull.
I plan on driving her till I can get the Chevelle paid off which could be 3-5 years.
If you have the stupid plastic body panels on the rockers (GTP trim) TAKE THEM OFF FROM TIME TO TIME AND CHECK FOR RUST AND CLEAN THEM OUT!!! I never did and it cost me $1500
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http://webpages.charter.net/citro/gtp%20rust%20008.jpg _________________ 2000 GTP 13.5 daily driver
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Doug Total posts: 804 Doug McKeown2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Location: Geneseo |
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Cary, sobering numbers!
Can anybody explain how to remove the rocker molding without damaging it or the mounts? It appears there are screws on the front and rear wheel wells, thats easy. But there is some kind of long metal bracket along the bottom edge of the molding under car. I don't know how that works, I also assume some pins are welded to rocker. |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Doug wrote: | Thanks Cary, sobering numbers!
Can anybody explain how to remove the rocker molding without damaging it or the mounts? It appears there are screws on the front and rear wheel wells, thats easy. But there is some kind of long metal bracket along the bottom edge of the molding under car. I don't know how that works, I also assume some pins are welded to rocker. |
hmmm, didn't take mine off, body shop did, sorry Doug. |
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