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bluto2000gs Total posts: 3300
Carl1996 Other Car Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Location: Lima, NY Age: 54 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: Need Quickly |
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Hi Guys,
Anyone have an o2 spoof for sale or even borrow.
I am ordering one, but I need one right away for inspection reasons.
Any help is appreciated. _________________ Good Bye.
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 43 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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were are you ordering one from?
I dont think places sell them? _________________ New Era performance
01z28, M6 NA, mullet, T tops, siqqqq |
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ROSS3R Total posts: 1376
Kenny Rosser2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Location: Binghamton/Vestal, NY Age: 44 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Damn I might have one but, it would take to long to get one to you. _________________ 2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP
VS|TOG’s|ZZP II IC|ZZP Stg II TB|Stg 4 Gen III|2.8 MPS |
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bluto2000gs Total posts: 3300
Carl1996 Other Car Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Location: Lima, NY Age: 54 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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studderin wrote: | were are you ordering one from?
I dont think places sell them? |
ZZP.
I am having a "not ready issue" and it is :
Catalyst
Oxy Sensor
Oxy Sensor HEater.
Those three things are completly turned off.
So there fore "not ready".
I figure I can turn them back on and and use a spoof to pass inspection. |
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redross17 Total posts: 3600 Brian Ross2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Location: Buffalo Age: 49 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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They should be 'on', but 'non-reporting'. Fix that, then drive to Henrietta and back to Lima, one way on 390, and you should be all set. _________________ 2018 Acadia
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dezldave961 Total posts: 808
Dave P.2004 Regal GS Joined: 23 Nov 2003 Location: Omaha, NE (was Rome, NY long ago) Age: 41 |
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Just passed last week (and the last 3yrs) with it properly done, as he just stated:
I also have this for EGR, EVAP, etc.
If you have a code reader, you can see the "Diagnostic Tests" that their computer reports back, along with DTC's, which you aren't passing 3 due to this issue.
For example, mine is like the one below, and the dots will blink if that test isn't passed yet, then stay solid if passed:
Just an extra way to check before heading back to the inspector, where they may be looking at the same thing before confirming you'll be able to pass. With all that's turned off in my pcm, all the dots still remain on and passed, so you should be able to achieve the same.
- Dave _________________ 2004 Regal GSX - YouTube channel Stattama T67BB, A2W IC, ST5, heads, L32, GMR diff/chain (11.46 w/ Z7 T66, IS3t cam)
2006 Grand Prix GXP - K&N intake and mufflers only, basically stock for me
2012 F-150 EcoBoost SuperCrew 4x4 - stock DD and roadtrip vehicle
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bluto2000gs Total posts: 3300
Carl1996 Other Car Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Location: Lima, NY Age: 54 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Its not a DTC its a "not ready" it does not show up as a trouble code.
Brian,
I thought that is what I did, but since I don't own a tuner and I lost my bin file I can't check.
I am heading out to Gary's to have him turn them on and not report. But if that is not the problem I will need to go the route of a spoof as a work around. I think. |
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Doug Total posts: 804 Doug McKeown2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Location: Geneseo |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Larry and I bought a MAC Tools ET50. It shows readiness monitors status and a lot more, very easy to use and cost about $70 _________________ 2001 Silver GTP coup 11.880@116.17 Fun Driver
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 48 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Carl - If you're desperate, I can take a spoof off one of my cars. Although even with the spoof, I still have to use the tuner to turn off the readiness monitors. So that's probably your best bet. But if you want to try it, let me know. |
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bluto2000gs Total posts: 3300
Carl1996 Other Car Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Location: Lima, NY Age: 54 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I am just scratching my head and wondering why most people with out a cat don't have a problem.
Thanks for the offer Larry, let me see what Gary can do tonight.
I mean we should be able to get this straightened out. It is simple, they need to be on but not reporting.
Somehow they are completly off. |
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dezldave961 Total posts: 808
Dave P.2004 Regal GS Joined: 23 Nov 2003 Location: Omaha, NE (was Rome, NY long ago) Age: 41 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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I should've separated my description of DTC's and Diagnostic Tests in my 1st response.
The tests, which you're being shown aren't ready, are spawned from not having the DTC's set-up properly.
I posted the black/blue DTC reader because those dots with letters are the actual Diagnostic Tests (ex: O = Oxygen Sensor, OH = Oxygen Heater, C or CC = Cat).
Again, it will just be a matter of having your DTC list matching the one I posted, and the "not ready" condition for those Diagnostic Tests will pass.
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GTP98 Total posts: 1787 Jay1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Location: b-loooooow Age: 44 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Carl like everyone else is saying have the code turned off but still ready. Also certain years can have 1 not ready and others I believe 2 not ready. So technically if the rear 02 is the only one not ready and you have no SES light you should still pass as long as the the other ones are ready.
I made the mistake of leaving my rear 02 turned off and not ready and still passed OBDII test. _________________ '08 TrailBlazer SS Black/Black |
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 48 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I play it safe and set every DTC to 'not reporting' in order to get the readiness monitors to be ready. When it's programmed like this, the requried 'driving cycle' needed to run the readiness monitors is almost instant and I don't need to drive very much if at all.
However, with my black car, I noticed my readiness monitors would not go ready even after flashing the PCM. Part of a full driving cycle is a cold start. The outside air temp has to be close to the engine coolant temp. But I was using the IAT harness for my ZZP timing adjuster! So it was never close to the coolant temp and never did a cold start.
So when I get my black car inspected I need to:
1) Reprogram the PCM so DTCs are 'not reporting'.
2) Cold start with the IAT sensor from a factory f-duct plugged in.
3) Use Jedi mind trick on mechanic so he thinks I have a cat. |
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Stonewall Total posts: 263 Jerry Jackson2006 Grand Prix GT Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Location: Bloomfield/Rochester, NY Age: 63 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Carl,
Did you get this resolved.
I can rig a spoof if you need it.
Jerry _________________
06 GT, HPtuner, PLX Wideband, K&N CAI, 3.5 MPS, PLOG/PEM, 3" DP, Corsa Catback |
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monte0 Total posts: 1144 keith1999 Other Car Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Location: gates Age: 46 |
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Larry wrote: |
3) Use Jedi mind trick on mechanic so he thinks I have a cat. |
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