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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
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| Mike H Total posts: 4243
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Roch, NY |
 Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised that there aren't replies from representatives of intense.
Was there a major problem with intense and they stopped supporting their pcms? What's the back story? |
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| Scott P Total posts: 3173
Like, duh.2006 Other Car Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Waxlandia aka Houston, TX Age: 92 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| The problems with Intense PCMs have to do with timing tables I beleive. I think Johhny would be able to fill us in. In an attempt to takea dvantage of a situation, DHP is offering to re-flash PCMs for a very nominal charge. They gain a larger customer base as a result. Not a bad manuever IMHO. |
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| studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike H wrote: | I'm surprised that there aren't replies from representatives of intense.
Was there a major problem with intense and they stopped supporting their pcms? What's the back story? |
I think I posted it about 10 times here alone.......
Hopfully charles has more perswation than I do. This club dosn't need anymore melted plugs. |
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| Mike H Total posts: 4243
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Roch, NY |
| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Johnny airbox wrote: |
I think I posted it about 10 times here alone.......
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I didn't know it wasn't a new issue prompting dhp's response.
So, being a continuation of the previous situation, and not a new issue, I'm really surprised that no intense person has said anything on that thread. |
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| Scotty Mac Total posts: 2794
Scott McAvoy2002 Other Car Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Deepest Darkest pits of HELL! Age: 44 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So, being a continuation of the previous situation, and not a new issue, I'm really surprised that no intense person has said anything on that thread. |
Thats because they know they were WRONG! and there PCMS have cost alot of members BIG money having to rebuld motors from chipped pistons and melted plugs!
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| redross17 Total posts: 3600
Brian Ross2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Location: Buffalo Age: 48 |
| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Those with an Intense PCM... |
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| junior1683 wrote: | http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=2071214&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1
not a bad idea... |
 DAMN! Must find cheap 2004 Intense PCM....
DHP is holding nails, forged by Chris Green(OH) and Big Jeff, for ZZP to hammer into Intense's coffin.  Wonder when Zooomer is gonna swing. 
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| Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Those with an Intense PCM... |
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| redross17 wrote: | | junior1683 wrote: | http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=2071214&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1
not a bad idea... |
DAMN! Must find cheap 2004 Intense PCM....
DHP is holding nails, forged by Chris Green(OH) and Big Jeff, for ZZP to hammer into Intense's coffin. Wonder when Zooomer is gonna swing. |
if he is smart, he won't becasue others are doing it for him and he can save face and look respectible. But, based on what I've read from him over the years, he isn't, and you'll see posts from him about all this for sure
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| 2fast4U Total posts: 1113
Gary2001 Regal GS Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Location: Niagara Falls, NY Age: 53 |
| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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If only dhp didn't make their bins secure...My HP Tuner will not read one...
The Intense PCM needs work, no doubt, but to their credit they have been great to me in helping me out with tuning and support after the sale...
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| Doug Total posts: 804
Doug McKeown2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Location: Geneseo |
| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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When I bought my 01 GTP it ran 13.0's the first time I raced it. I thought I did not need my Daily driver 98 GTP to have alot of mod's and sold my DHP 1.0 I had in it. I at once knew I had made a mistake, it's very hard to go back to slow shifts and no skip shift. I drove for awhile like that and decided to get another one. Intense just anounced their PCM and it was alot cheaper so I bought a standard burn for my 98. I imeadaitly noted the car seemd faster with the IPCM then with the DHP PCM. After afew atap runs I noticed a degree or 2 more timing then my DHP but no increase in Knock. I still like this PCM for MY car, but it may actually be too agressive for a pulley, airbox lower thermastat car. I have 1:9 rockers, RT downpipe, Preston brand ported ex. manifolds, 3/33 pulley, Thrasher CAI, colder plugs and thermastat. The only thing I have not been happy with on the IPCM is it runs richer then the DHP. So I have decided to take DHP up on their offer to reburn an IPCM to DHP PCM for $25 +12 shipping. I am aware it will probably not be as fast but as an experiment to really see about the 2 PCM's the price is right, and that was why I got the IPCM in the first place.
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| Marino454 Total posts: 300
Marino2006 Other Car Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Location: Clarence, NY Age: 41 |
| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| that is awesome..... |
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| Zooomer Total posts: 21
Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: grand rapids, MI |
| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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ZZP doesn't need to post about the intense PCMs. Especially not the 04's. Member's are already doing that.
Our retaliation is by fixing blown engines and converting people to ZZP. We just finished Randy Howe's 04. He had 1.9 rocker, emmense PCM, exhaust, 3.4 press on and 3 blown pistons. We just did a 15k XPZ build that netted him 362WHP on stock mufflers and 2.5" exhaust. With some tuning and larger exhaust he should be close to 400WHP.
Here's a vid of him having fun with his new ZZP setup:
http://www.zzperformance.com/miscftp/Randysdyno.wmv |
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| seen96 Total posts: 2033
Drag Radials Suck on FWD.1997 Grand Prix GT Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: elbows deep in 4t65e Age: 45 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Thats pretty hot 
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