Dyno Day Results
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Upstate New York Club Grand Prix Forum Index -> Club Events
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Inn-TuneOffline
Back Seat Driver
Total posts: 35

Mike McGinnis
2005 Grand Prix GTX
Joined: 11 May 2005
Location: West Seneca, NY (Buffalo)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:58 am    Post subject: Dyno Day Results Reply with quote

Here are some of the dyno day results. Horsepower and torque first, then AFR and boost if taken. If you have any questions about the graphs just let me know and I can explain.
































-Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
Inn-TuneOffline
Back Seat Driver
Total posts: 35

Mike McGinnis
2005 Grand Prix GTX
Joined: 11 May 2005
Location: West Seneca, NY (Buffalo)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote








Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
bluto2000gsOffline
Top Dog
Total posts: 3300

Avatar

Carl
1996 Other Car
Joined: 31 Mar 2004
Location: Lima, NY
Age: 53
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy SH*T John.
_________________
Good Bye.
BHO sucks.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
LarryOffline
Site Admin
Total posts: 2201

Larry H.
2001 Grand Prix GTP
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Rochester, NY
Age: 47
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike.
Does these dyno numbers reflect any type of artificial adjustment from the temp/humidity? I know some dynos report SAE HP which is adjusted, right? Do you know what the temps were?

Larry
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website 
Mike HOffline
Top Dog
Total posts: 4243

Avatar

Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Roch, NY
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Do you know what the temps were?


Probably about the same as Rochester - damn hot and as close to 100% humidity as you would ever want to get.

Probably hotter and more humid than it was in Shreveport!
Back to top
View user's profile 
Inn-TuneOffline
Back Seat Driver
Total posts: 35

Mike McGinnis
2005 Grand Prix GTX
Joined: 11 May 2005
Location: West Seneca, NY (Buffalo)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Thanks Mike.
Does these dyno numbers reflect any type of artificial adjustment from the temp/humidity? I know some dynos report SAE HP which is adjusted, right? Do you know what the temps were?

Larry

Larry:

Every graph you see on my dyno is corrected for:
ambient air temp
humidity
barometric pressure
air inlet temp


This keeps the numbers consistent from day to day. I've had the same car show up different days with very different conditions and the graphs laid right on top of each other.

Ambient air temp was 85-96 throughout the day.
Pressure was 29.91-29.95.
Humidity was 87 in the morning and dropped to 37 towards the end of the day.
Inlet air temps were 90-115 depending on the car.

-Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
bpipe95Offline
Intercooled
Total posts: 982

Avatar

Brad
2007 Other Car
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: roc
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks again for staying late so we could put the TA on the dyno.... Cool
_________________
www.allstartactical.com
Back to top
View user's profile 
studderinOffline
Top Dog
Total posts: 6272

Avatar

John Csotello
1998 Grand Prix GTP
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: 2nd gear burnouts
Age: 42
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL at my boost numbers.

not too bad for 93 oct, with 125* IC water on that pull (3rd)

And I only hit like 323whp or somthing on my street 17deg timming. 2nd pull I turned it up to 21* were I don't see KR really but I'm safe on the street (ok I turn it up for kill mode).The 21 deg timming made 340.x whp and car was hotter. I think I saw a 0.x and a 1.x blimp of KR so I knew I was maxed for 93 octane. LOL But had a pull left, so just wanted to try somthing. So went to 24* timming and the line, started to pull away for the last 340whp pull. from about 4950 to 5750 it was about 5hp over last curve. And crossed under was was 5hp less till 6100, then there about the same falling off to 6500.
I didn't save the Atap. or look at my wideband 3dr pull. But was at about 12.0-12.3 1st and 2nd pull I think? (anyone esle watch it?) I wish I added a little fule and got it to hi 11.'s knowing th car was getting hotting abf going to get soem KR. 3rd pull I saw a 3* eaily, 0 for alittle shile then a 5 spike to a 4. So started getting the 4* pulled in KR probally were the 5800+ about was.

Mike could you post the screen shot that has all 3 of my pulls? I have it here too. anyone have a scanner? I think it's some great info about no other changes and showing power incress from timming advace. I htink I read +1 deg is 2whp? I donno? But a broad curve for 323 at 17* to 340 with 21* is pretty good. LOL
I only hade about 5mins with the widband too. LOL It's 4654565652's better then factory gayness. I think when larry was watching for me on the street. I was seeing 12.1-12.3's (maybe a 12.4?) but my 02's were rich at .940's LOL I'm happy with my upstate, CAI, heads,M90.
_________________
New Era performance


01z28, M6 NA, mullet, T tops, siqqqq
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
studderinOffline
Top Dog
Total posts: 6272

Avatar

John Csotello
1998 Grand Prix GTP
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: 2nd gear burnouts
Age: 42
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugggg. anyone esle notice my HP curve to larry's. Mine has that dip right were he peaked.

Same cam so powerband should be simial?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
NoGroceryGetterOffline
Cammed
Total posts: 1118

Avatar

Sean
1998 Grand Prix GTX
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: B-Lo
Age: 44
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny, Didn't Larry dyno in 2nd gear whereas everyone else dynod in 3rd? Larry?
Back to top
View user's profile 
studderinOffline
Top Dog
Total posts: 6272

Avatar

John Csotello
1998 Grand Prix GTP
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: 2nd gear burnouts
Age: 42
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh ya. I donno about that? Mike told me after? But the power band is still that same. maybe if I can get that dip out thats were the peak is? LOL my peak at 5700 seamed like a low rpm. it pulls 5800-6200 really hard. were Pshift is off you can tell. it's short shifts bad.


I just noticed I have the boost wave in that exate same spot? I wish I have a AFR numbers to see what was going on there? Anyone have a idea?
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
Inn-TuneOffline
Back Seat Driver
Total posts: 35

Mike McGinnis
2005 Grand Prix GTX
Joined: 11 May 2005
Location: West Seneca, NY (Buffalo)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NoGroceryGetter wrote:
Johnny, Didn't Larry dyno in 2nd gear whereas everyone else dynod in 3rd? Larry?

Correct. Everyone ran in 3rd except Larry who ran in 2nd at his request.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
JimOffline
Stunt Driver
Total posts: 104

Avatar

Jim
2005 Grand Prix GTP CompG
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Location: North Tonawanda
Age: 17
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know?? I pulled an 208.7 I think it should be more than that. Could it be that I didn't turn off the Traction control??? Would that effect my pull? Anyone Know?? Confused Confused
Back to top
View user's profile 
GreystarOffline
Cammed
Total posts: 1313

Avatar

Pat
2002 Other Car
Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Location: NC
Age: 93
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
I don't know?? I pulled an 208.7 I think it should be more than that. Could it be that I didn't turn off the Traction control??? Would that effect my pull? Anyone Know?? Confused Confused


No that shouldn't make a difference as you're not spinning the wheels on the rollers.
Back to top
View user's profile 
redross17Offline
Moderator
Total posts: 3600

Brian Ross
2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG
Joined: 11 Dec 2003
Location: Buffalo
Age: 48
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim wrote:
I don't know?? I pulled an 208.7 I think it should be more than that. Could it be that I didn't turn off the Traction control??? Would that effect my pull? Anyone Know?? Confused Confused


I'd say 208 wouldn't be far off....assuming 20% drivetrain loss.
208.7*1.2= 250.44...I wouldn't bet against the missing 10hp being due to the stock PCM tuning. I also don't believe that replacing the stock airbox (on 04+) alone would allow for that much better breathing (all else being stock)--we don't have the wacky bends the previous gen. does.


-edit-
Quick search on clubgp:
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=1995497&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=stock+dyno&language=single&tmode=&smode=&s=#1995497
...215whp
_________________
2018 Acadia
Retired: 2014 ATS, 2004 GTP
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website 
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Upstate New York Club Grand Prix Forum Index -> Club Events All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

AlbumAlbum   CalendarCalendar    FAQFAQ     SearchSearch    MemberlistMemberlist    UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister    ProfileProfile    Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 





Contact Administrator

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group