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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:28 pm Post subject: Knock Knock...Whose there??? |
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my car with upwards of 9* of knock at WOT
anyone have idea the best way to kill some of this knock. if i can figure a way to get the files off the a-tap i can post them (any ideas how?). Scott and i were seeing quick blips of knock only at WOT runs on the highway.
mods:
DHP
3.4
Wizair Intake
RT DP
2* colder plugs
180* t-stat
1.9 rockers
any idea of what could cause this explosion of knock on my car? _________________ MODS: Stock |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 43 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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if it bliped and went to down after a sec sec of WOT somthing is hitting somthing _________________ New Era performance
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 47 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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9 is pretty high with those mods. Sometimes when there is a problem with the car the PCM retards timing using KR and it can be 9-12 degrees. Could be false knock or something else wrong with the car. If it's real knock, the KR should decrease if you run 100 octane. |
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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we never saw the same knock at the same speed/time each run, they were always at diff mph and diff *'s. ill get the scans up on here tomorrow |
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Scotty Mac Total posts: 2794
Scott McAvoy2002 Other Car Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Deepest Darkest pits of HELL! Age: 44 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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It was steady between 2-5* at WOT, and his DHP seems to be shifting really low around 5400-5500?
The 9.9* KR was at a VERY odd 1475rpm in 2nd gear...but it was just a 2 frame blip, so who knows. _________________ 2002 WRX Wagon - SOLD!!
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 43 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Scotty Mac wrote: |
The 9.9* KR was at a VERY odd 1475rpm in 2nd gear...but it was just a 2 frame blip, so who knows. |
Sounds like a error.
I've been waiting for a train.....car idling fine looks at the KR grafe for no reason lines at 0... then for 1 frame... like 5+ (off the Y axis I only need to see under 1-2* nayways ) then right back to a steaddy 0 KR
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not like the normal
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LOL you get the idea.
No KR recovery time or naything. so it wasn't a PCM singal. reg dhp recovery is like 1 sec for 2*'s or somthing so 9* will take like 5 secs witch is a long time.. FYI watch for that. But I think it's false and somthing hitting. you told me IM is was on every down shift... |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 43 |
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Knock Knock...Whose there??? |
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oh shit I have too
junior1683 wrote: | Knock Knock...Whose there???
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: |
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so johnny what are u thinking it was then?? do u think it might be my dhp?? |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 43 |
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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DP hitting.......... I'd start with |
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: |
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how do i post the spreed sheet file?? |
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redross17 Total posts: 3600 Brian Ross2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Location: Buffalo Age: 48 |
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:07 am Post subject: |
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junior1683 wrote: | how do i post the spreed sheet file?? |
We try and convince Larmo to install this board mod:
http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=74505
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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damn, that would be sweet...
untill then how else can i post it? |
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 47 |
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Your O2 values are low (865-880) so you are probably running lean, causing knock. Before you go WOT, your PCM thinks you are running rich (negative LTFT) so that's not helping you. I think you need to tune to fix this (PCM or mini-AFC). Also, if you have 70-80k miles on your front O2 sensor, you might want to replace it. |
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junior1683 Total posts: 1315
1999 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Location: Baldwinsville NY Age: 41 |
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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larry, thanks for the reply! what do u think i should get done to my pcm?? i dont know the slightest thing about tuneing. im gonna get a few goodies in the next month or 2 and then see where i sit. i know scott said my car was shifting very low, i e-mailed dhp and they had no idea what i was talking about.
how hard is it to use a AFC??
any other suggestions? |
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