LS1M working again..did quick 2...opinions?

Got the LS1M working again awhile back and finally installed the charge and run batteries and got the latest updates so that I can use Logcolor from DHP now. 2 quick scans-
(40-104 WOT)
http://webpages.charter.net/citro/1-16%2040-104WOT.html
(45-96 WOT)
http://webpages.charter.net/citro/1-16%2045-96WOT.html

Johnny, for tuning purposes...what do you scan and why? do you tune for WOT only? or do you also set up for normal driving? I want to start dialing in better this year and as you guys know, I know nothing about tuning Laughing

I do now have a mini AFC 2.2 though, but have never used it yet. TIA
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject:

I scan:
A/F, ECT, FT Cell, Gear, IAT, Injector PW, KR, LTFT, MAF, MAP(kPa), MPH, O2, RPM, Spark, STFT, Total Misfires, TP %

The bold ones are probably the most important ones.
For LTFTs, you should tune (targeting -3..0..3) for all speeds/loads.

I think Guzzo has something on his site about tuning with the AFC?
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject:

thats pretty bad ass you getting 17deg timming. Find out your IAT, and whatever a dhpv1 looks at, to command that. (thats what I was getting commanded w/ a 1om spoof, but I htink it also looks at some other temps a little?) That will rock on race gas in the summer non IC.

that looks like you 3.40?

02's are "ok". You should do run from a stop, and see what they settle at? The numbers you have there get (higher) after you do 2-4 WOT runs remeber about that.

I get B1S1 02# on the areoforce .890-.930 I noticed. Watch the UNYCGP video, I got some good incar clips of my car. But really don't look at it WOT normally:lol: I do, after I changed somthing or cars been sitting a >week. And just before I put it in "kill" mod on the street, but I don't really adjust the AFR off it. It's more of a "general range" number, becuse it's affected but to many things, doing muti WOT form differnt MPH/stops/air/coolent temps. If I go WOT and see it stitting at .700 I'd let off lol. Use it like a "general range" idea, with KR influense. I guess thats the best way to say it?

I dail my FT for curise, but wot I don't care about them. I just do what I want with the wideband number. Thats a "real" number, all the other backdoor tunning ways, (cell, charts, SD) I think your just playing with yourself, for what were doing = reading PCM numbers driving are cars on the street. (somtimes 2-3rd hand combind values off other sencors singals)
Your too far away (for super dialing in whats actully happening in the combusition chamber) for that, and stick with the meat and patoaes, real world to the motor = Wideband and KR.
If your on a dyno for weeks, and what to get into dialing in more things = what you WOT locking FT do. At each MPH you went WOT, for that coolent temp, with that IAT temp..... (you get the idea) Go ahead, but it's going to take a while with a AFC Laughing

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OK this is the best I'm going to get with useing quote tags

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here's the TB I got from Matt and installed....and NO...it's not a bigger blade...stock size (had to re-read his posts to check)

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:

uh...just found a wideband O2 kit at ZZP...uh...$350!?! Shocked

not to mention the additional cables or the exhaust clamp thing. You can spent around $400-$450 just to get setup. IF I had a car that was IC'd/cam'd...i.e. FASTER...I might think about it...but for me I think $450 for tuning is a little extreme...no? Laughing

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject:

haha thouse pics and hand look famier. Laughing

ya my WB was 450 new LM1 with 4 channels

I'm gona have to say WOT tunning,

a WB with AFC is a better. then using the narrowband and have a $400 "tuner" and the $$ labtop to go with it.
Look at me, stock motor 89K with only a AFC on it. You know what I do with it Cool

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

My PLX M-300 was like 275ish.

Cary a good friend of mine is a PLX dealer and has a PLX M-250 Plug and Play Bosch Wideband Sensor Controller Combo with 2 1/16" White Gauge in stock right now.

http://www.plxdevices.com/onlinestore_domestic.htm

On the site its listed for $369, I could probbaly get it cheaper for you. If you want ill get in touch with him and see what he says. Or if you want a different model let me know. He can get them pretty fast and ship it to you.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

Cary, Yes you can use the PLX in your stock 02 location. PLX has a forum where you can get info how how that works and how to hook it up. There are some things to consider before doing that, one is the temp of exhaust gases should not go above 850c or you can shorten the life of the sencor. It should last about 50-60k miles.

http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/index.php

When I first got it I wanted to wait till my TOG's came in before I installed it. Well I never installed my TOG's so I let Shawn E use the wideband sence he was swapping in his set up in to the 97gt and needed to tune it. He liked it alot and said it was very helpfull. Now I mentioned the M250 because they have it in stock but the M300 is a very nice unit and the display is bright and readable. Ive been leaning towards selling my M300 and jumping up to the R series sence I just bought a laptop. Now I would have bought a LM unit but I liked the fact that the PLX was small and I wanted to run it all the time, plus my buddy did a group buy so I got it real cheap. Take alook on the PLX forum and if your interested in getting one let me know and Ill see about getting you prices.

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject:

if your going to sell your M300 I want first rights to buy then, OK? Laughing

I would imagine that replacing the stock O2 will require some PCM interface for sure. You never installed it yourself?

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject:

If I sell it ill let you know. So back to using the wideband as your stock 02 is as simple as using a 20ohm 10 wat resistor and connecting some wires. You can read about it here. Basicly you take the narrow band output from the controller and use that to send the signal to the pcm, the resistor is to trick the pcm into thinking the 02 is heating up and working.

http://www.plxdevices.com/AppNotes/PLXApp004.pdf

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