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Kenny Rosser
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:11 am    Post subject: Digital Horsepower PCM Reply with quote

I have been thinking about getting one for my car lately, and wnatedto know if it something to get and would I need to do anything to the prior to putting it in?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have the supporting mods...exhaust, 3.4 pulley, inake, colder plugs, 180 t-stat...stuff of that nature
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget that you also should get a CASE learn done after installing the new PCM. Make sure they just do a CASE learn, but do NOT flash the PCM.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PFYC.com has a DHP for $215 and free shipping, and I think I'm gonna get it. It sounds so good to get and all the stuff it does and at the price might as well. It seems it will be easy to install like what 10min. I know I need to get the CASE learn done, some dealerships will do it for free or a small fee.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the dhp 1.0 in my 98 GTP and now have the intense PCM in it, both are great but I think my car is faster with the Intense one, and it is cheaper.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked at the Intense PCM and wondering what stage should I get. I'm guessing the standard PCM is the one I need.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you want standard.. If you dont mind waiting a little bit, a DHP can be had on the nat forums for 150-175 bones..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DON'T BUY INTENSE PCMs!!!!!!!! Unless of course you want to always run 19+ degrees of timing.....which no matter what anyone says isn't good for your car. And the skip shifts aren't as aggresive as the DHP(I could go either way on this since skip shifts prolly aren't the best thing for your tranny, but at the same time a slow or low pressure skip shift is actually causing more problems since it's actually causing the tranny to slip which will wear out the clutches)

For more opinions on this talk to johnny he knows alot more than I do on the Intense/DHP PCM debate.


P.S. For anyone who isn't a UNYCGP member who feels the need to comment on this issue or critizie me for slander, feel free to e-mail me PRIVATELY and i'll be glad to discuss my negative opinion of the PCM. But any Negative comments on this thread and you will be removed from this board and banned indefinately.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is getting a new PCM really worth it or not. The one Im looking at seems good but if isnt worth it or something I'd rather not get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PCM is recommended by most since you get many features. With my first PCM, I thought it was worth it just for the improvements in shifting. Then there are KR related features (faster recovery), power, no speed limiters, shift points, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a used DHP v.1 Even if you bought it "new" it's still used parts, it's 100% the same. nothing to wear.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenny,

I have a DHP v1.0. I think it a great PCM. The fuel management is right on, and the shifting is much improved above stock. I got mine used off the nat board, and like John said a "used" PCM does wear out anyway. Go for it and enjoy now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the NAT forums or board? And how do I get to it? I've been looking for it and still cant find it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DevilMayCry wrote:
What is the NAT forums or board? And how do I get to it? I've been looking for it and still cant find it.


The national board everyone is talking about is www.clubgp.com. They have a forum section
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/default.asp
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott,
I didn't know John had experience with a DHP and a Intense PCM in the SAME car with the same mods. Or owned a Intense PCM at all. But he has had some really bad service from DHP, I seem to remeamber him waiting and waiting for them to ship his PCM back to him.
My 98 GTP is fine with the Intense standard burn and feels faster then it did with the DHP 1.0. I have had both brands of PCM's in the 98 GTP, and own one of each brand for my 01 GTP.
I thought you had a DHP PCM, is that what you are refering to? If so that was for a GT , not a GTP which is what he is asking about. And didn't you have problems with it?
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