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John Csotello
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey John,
I like your GTO. See you at MOMs ill be in my orange LS1 z28
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Michael Guzzo
1998 Grand Prix GTP
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For the street tires, you obv. dont need to bother getting into the waterbox. doing a burnout at all doesnt seem to do much. Just stage deep, ...


not to argue launching in a Welcome thread but I think staging shallow in a GTP is better. You get an extra 6 to 7 inches of acceleration (just like Brad's mom likes) before you trip the light and can cut 2.0X lights. If you stage deep you cut the light early and lose the torque advantage.
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Brandon Emerson
1998 Grand Prix GTP
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Buffalo
Age: 40
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome.

Sounds like you will be a nice add to our little community.

Out of curiousity, what have you done to your GTP thus far? Any future plans?
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John G.
2004 Grand Prix GTP
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Location: Hamburg,NY
Age: 58
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brandon, Mods so far are flip upper motor mounts, k&n air cleaner, and I made a custom heat shield to keep the heat from the crossover pipe away from the MAF and TB and rubber elbow. Also installed front strut brace.
I would like to get to car in the 13's . I am trying to figure out the best way to get there. I have a few ideas for a ram air intake setup I am working on right now.
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Doug McKeown
2001 Grand Prix GTP
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John,
Getting your car into the 13's is a good goal. What is it's best time so far, and what were your 60 foot times on that run. I don't have a good idea of what a 04 GTP in relatively stock form should run the 1/4 mile (OR 1/Cool , as it seems they very from what I expect from a 97-03 GTP.
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Brian Ross
2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG
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Location: Buffalo
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope I'm not spoiling it for you, but stock, you'll hit around 15.0...high 14s if the launch and weather cooperate. I ran consistent upper 13s with a 3.4" pulley, colder plugs, 180* tstat, FWI, bigger injectors (03-04 Cobra's work, ironically), 85mm MAF, 3" downpipe, PEMs and PCM tuning. Maybe around $600 + tuning/tuner, if going with used and homemade (ie FWI) parts. You may be able to get away with leaving the injectors stock (8 used 41# Cobra injectors run around $100).
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John G.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured low 15's stock. The regal gs I had (for six days) ran 14.5 stock at 93.5 mph. Good traction and NYIRP really don't go hand in hand. Lancaster usually does a better job preping the starting line. At lancaster the gand prix's best et was a 9.58 and that was with a 2.35 60' time spinning the tires with the traction control on. I could shave a little off by shallow staging, but then the reaction time suffers.
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Brandon Emerson
1998 Grand Prix GTP
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean gto not grand prix right? Wink
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Matt Antonio
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belo wrote:
You mean gto not grand prix right? Wink


Lancaster is 1/8 mile......

('72 GTO's don't have traction control Idea )
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAAMRACE wrote:
I figured low 15's stock. The regal gs I had (for six days) ran 14.5 stock at 93.5 mph. Good traction and NYIRP really don't go hand in hand. Lancaster usually does a better job preping the starting line. At lancaster the gand prix's best et was a 9.58 and that was with a 2.35 60' time spinning the tires with the traction control on. I could shave a little off by shallow staging, but then the reaction time suffers.


What happend to the regal?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluto2000gs wrote:


What happend to the regal?


That's what I was thinking....welcome to the boards, BTW Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shallow...sorry. ehh Im slow sometimes.....most of the time
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC2GIW wrote:
Belo wrote:
You mean gto not grand prix right? Wink


Lancaster is 1/8 mile......

('72 GTO's don't have traction control Idea )


Embarassed guess that's what I get for never going there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAAMRACE wrote:
Good traction and NYIRP really don't go hand in hand. Lancaster usually does a better job preping the starting line.


I've never been to Lancaster, but I've always heard just the opposite.
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