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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a little bit of snow and you could ski down that torque curve.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuppers seems to be what they were talking about.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mguzzo wrote:
a little bit of snow and you could ski down that torque curve.


Cause it starts so high! Very Happy
That my old VS cam setup - since the dyno I did XP, Gen V, etc.

I guess this type of dyno is good for making small changes and getting accurate results when looking for differences between multiple runs. But the numbers are different than those from other types of dynos.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to have my car tuned at New Era Performance, but before anything happens, I have a few questions. Right now, with the mods in my sig, the car runs pretty good actually. I will be adding the Billet TB, and 99+ MAF to my mods, so obviously I will need a 99+ GTP tune. I was wondering when I go out there to have them tune my car, if I should have them use the 99+ VE to tune as well?

Also, I am going to have my car inspected coming up in the next few weeks, I will have to delete some codes for this, but also, I was wondering if anyone knows anyone somewhat locally around here that could get my car inspected? I was told there is someone on here that lives in Orchard Park that can get the car inspected? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get codes shut off then you can go anywhere to get inspected. If the NYS computer is happy then you are good to go.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you get codes shut off then you can go anywhere to get inspected. If the NYS computer is happy then you are good to go.


It still has to pass a visual inspection. But i know 90% of people at valvoline don't know what a catalytic converter is
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, its not hard to get a car ready for that either.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Joe_Omerta]It still has to pass a visual inspection. But i know 90% of people at valvoline don't know what a catalytic converter is[/quote]

You mean the big brass plug in place of my rear O2 isn't supposed to pass visual?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3800power wrote:
I will be adding the Billet TB, and 99+ MAF to my mods, so obviously I will need a 99+ GTP tune. I was wondering when I go out there to have them tune my car, if I should have them use the 99+ VE to tune as well?


No, this is something people without 3800-specific knowledge wouldn't be able to directly say, either. The 99+ VE table is incremented differently than the 98 table, so you'd need to run a 99-00 pcm file to properly swap to that without hassle.

As for the MAF swap, you can run a 98 "tune", it makes no difference where the table starts... it's where it ends up once dialed into your specific sensors/mods. With the bigger TB, it won't be correct using any stock table, so be prepared to require a few scans/tunes to get it 100%.

I'd save the trip to NEP for once you've got it in the ballpark, otherwise you'll be spending alot more time/money there than necessary to take care of the simple things 1st.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been contemplating that, since the car does not run THAT bad right now, to just try tuning it myself. Do you think doing a VE tune would be worth it, or just tune with the MAF?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not worth it, honestly. The 3800's are not as dependant on the VE table for stability as the V8's are. I've tuned multiple 11sec cars in the past while using stock VE, just adjusting MAF and PE.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezldave961 wrote:
Not worth it, honestly. The 3800's are not as dependant on the VE table for stability as the V8's are. I've tuned multiple 11sec cars in the past while using stock VE, just adjusting MAF and PE.



Dave wants to tune mine too when he's not helluva busy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

usmcz28 wrote:
Dave wants to tune mine too when he's not helluva busy Very Happy


I think I might have to agree to that one. Laughing
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