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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: Vogel TB affects TPS sensor??? |
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OK, my LS1M has been malfunctioning for sometime. I sent it back and Mark sent me a new one already tested and loaded with software. It STILL doesn't work right.
What is happening is that only at WOT the LS1M doesn't read correctly TPS, Boost, MPH, or RPM. At idle or at cruising it appears to read OK.
Question - the Vogel ported TB that I put on, does it or will it effect the TPS? or perhaps I have a bad TPS or damaged it in the swap?
HELP- I'm too old and stupid to figure this out _________________ 2000 GTP 13.5 daily driver
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 47 |
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Have someone scan it next time you are up. The TPS could be screwed up but I don't know about the other stuff (boost, MPH, RPM)... Does the Palm have the latest LS1M software? |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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just put the key to on.
Whats the TPS v closed and WOT
And it should be linier, see if you have any vooltage jumps? _________________ New Era performance
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Larry wrote: | Have someone scan it next time you are up. The TPS could be screwed up but I don't know about the other stuff (boost, MPH, RPM)... Does the Palm have the latest LS1M software? |
yes, and since I upgraded to the latest software it hasn't worked |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Johnny airbox wrote: | just put the key to on.
Whats the TPS v closed and WOT
And it should be linier, see if you have any vooltage jumps? |
OK, cool...I'll try that. Can't remember where the TPS is on the TB though...anybody got a picture? |
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KC2GIW Total posts: 5563
Matt Antonio1998 Grand Prix GTX Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: SYR/ROC Age: 25 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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uhhh
it's the sensor that attaches to the throttle shaft??
directly opposite where the cables hook up.
only two sensors on there...TSP and MAF...the MAF is on the top...
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Larry Total posts: 2201 Larry H.2001 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 47 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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What John meant was to use the LS1M to scan for TPSV instead of TPS. Sit in the car and press the gas pedal (or turn it by hand) and watch the voltage reading. |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Larry wrote: | What John meant was to use the LS1M to scan for TPSV instead of TPS. Sit in the car and press the gas pedal (or turn it by hand) and watch the voltage reading. |
ah ha! OK, will try that when I leave work, thanks |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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you could use a DVM under the hood also. |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:37 am Post subject: |
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OK-
TPSV at idle - .53 constant
TPSV at WOT went to 4.34
at cruise like 1.53
I tried to save some logs today and my LS1M had a fatal error. Something else is wrong and I'm trying to work it out with Mark. Perhaps the cable? although it tests fine. weird |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have a LS1 TB so I don;t remeber about stock numbers.
Mine are like .045 closed and .47 open IIRC
how has a stock TB post you numbers
CIT did you go form closed to open slowly ans watch of nay skips, in the signal? it might have a dead/bad spot? |
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Scotty Mac Total posts: 2794
Scott McAvoy2002 Other Car Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Deepest Darkest pits of HELL! Age: 44 |
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think cary was testing while he was driving, not just in the driveway with the Key to ON and not running. _________________ 2002 WRX Wagon - SOLD!!
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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ya, the TPS dosn;'t care tho. |
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Cary Citro Total posts: 2370
Better living with drugs2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: West by God Pennsyltucky Age: 57 |
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Scotty Mac wrote: | I think cary was testing while he was driving, not just in the driveway with the Key to ON and not running. |
correct- while driving
Now the LS1M doesn't work at all, so I'm waiting on a new cable to see if that's the reason it's fucked up
Hey, look at it this way.....becasue my LS1M is screwed up I have no way of telling if my rocker install went OK or my new TB!
I guess it's OK...no BOOM yet |
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studderin Total posts: 6272
John Csotello1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: 2nd gear burnouts Age: 42 |
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Cary Citro wrote: |
I guess it's OK...no BOOM yet |
Thats the spirt, go intense.
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