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Joe_Omerta Total posts: 867 Joe Ventresca2000 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Location: Blasdell Age: 38 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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if the egr coats the i/c core, wouldn't that lower the heat transfer to the coolant therefore give you less cooling efficiency which leads to warmer intake air which gives worse mpg? so theoretically no egr on an i/c'd system would be beneficial. any thoughts on this? _________________ 2004 Yukon XL Trying to keep stock
2000 gtp Custom I/C, TOGs, Custom PCM, 3.25'', HAI, VS cam Retired |
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KC2GIW Total posts: 5563
Matt Antonio1998 Grand Prix GTX Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: SYR/ROC Age: 25 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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WOT MPG is not what's in question.
The I/C is working at cruise, but not enough to make a difference...and if i'm not mistaken, warmer IAT is better milage. Just like you lose milage cooling off your thermostat and/or cooler plugs
Think about it...cooler air = denser air = needs more fuel to maintain a set A/F.
Do you want more power or better fuel economy? _________________ Hi, I'm Matt. I'm the resident smartass and I have fourblack children: (ok, one's only half black..)
07.5 2500HD, Duramax, Edge Race Evo CTS, MBRP 5" Stainless, TransGo, Sleeves, EGR!, PCV
09 VRSCDX - Night Rod. Flat black, gloss black
02 Black Z06. All work done by New Era Perforamnce. 519/497 at the rear, 3100 lbs.
05 Arctic Cat Firecat F7 - Sold
07 Arctic Cat F8 Sno Pro - Smashed into 1000 orange pieces. |
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GTP98 Total posts: 1787 Jay1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Location: b-loooooow Age: 44 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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KC2GIW wrote: |
You got a lot of things going against you.
I think the EGR is good for at least a full MPG.
104s are cold..but I mean..you need them.
g/l...interesting stuff. |
yuppers you are right. It will be interesting to see what happens. I travel 60 miles a day, 95% is highway so any increase should show itself after a tank or two. _________________ '08 TrailBlazer SS Black/Black |
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seen96 Total posts: 2033
Drag Radials Suck on FWD.1997 Grand Prix GT Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: elbows deep in 4t65e Age: 46 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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I havent done shit yet but, Im doing 104's, 180 t stat, clean filter, ALOT of tuning. I did the math again...this tank of gas I calulated roughly 24~26mpg. not too shabby for having something fucked up in my tune....(my car rev's to 2000rpms, dies down to 400rpms, repeats at initial start-up till I put it in gear) ....and my WOT A/F is in the friggen 12's but, hot damn I only get 2-3degrees of KR with 18 degrees adv. Wee HOO _________________ ZZP stuff...
Heads (started as ZZP stg.3 with some improvements)
Cam (XPZ with a slightly different components for valve movment)
IC (Ford Cobra coolant resv., frt exchr the size of a engine rad. weight consum. rear expans. tank)
"Certified Auto Trans Shop" Transmission sold by ZZP...I have no comment for this peice of...great trans.
Also,
SLP Headers <--FOR SALE
Eaton's Gen.3 M90 |
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KC2GIW Total posts: 5563
Matt Antonio1998 Grand Prix GTX Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: SYR/ROC Age: 25 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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So you get 15* of advance? |
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loudgp Total posts: 593 Greg1996 Grand Prix GT Joined: 03 May 2006 Location: Ny Age: 43 |
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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well to chime in my new tune is showing almost 46* at criuse had a few bleeps of kr that i am dealing with and some wacky ltft's(+10 to 12 at some points) but overall i am avg about 29mpg right now. mixed city and highway with no egr ( coded off and ports filled in intake ) |
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Stonewall Total posts: 263 Jerry Jackson2006 Grand Prix GT Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Location: Bloomfield/Rochester, NY Age: 63 |
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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cruise at 50-70 in overdrive 40 to 47*. saw a couple blipps of 49. _________________
06 GT, HPtuner, PLX Wideband, K&N CAI, 3.5 MPS, PLOG/PEM, 3" DP, Corsa Catback |
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