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KC2GIW Total posts: 5563
Matt Antonio1998 Grand Prix GTX Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: SYR/ROC Age: 25 |
 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| exx wrote: | | IMHO, ugly in a 'vert. |
That's just too easy....
Have you EVER run it, Jeff?
You gotta actrually run faster than a 13.49 to be considered 'faster than 13.49'. Point being, the GTO made over 460 to the wheels and I never ran faster than a 12.90 in it for any number of reasons...among them traction, track conditions, and paramount was driver skill.
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| exx Total posts: 291
2006 Other Car Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Lockport, NY Age: 48 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| KC2GIW wrote: |
Have you EVER run it, Jeff?
You gotta actrually run faster than a 13.49 to be considered 'faster than 13.49'. Point being, the GoaT made over 260 to the wheels and I never ran faster than a 14.90 in it for any number of reasons...among them traction, track conditions, and paramount was I suck. |
12.90 is still over a half-second faster than the limit for 'verts..
Advertised 1/4 mile for the car was 13.6 if memory serves. I'd like to think that bolting an additional 200 HP on it would certainly have an improvement of at least 2 tenths (thereby making me illegal).. LOL
I tried one time, didn't pass tech. They saw the boost gauge in the dash, and said "Not without a rollbar".
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| Strenz68 Total posts: 416
Jonathan2007 Grand Prix GT Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Location: ROC City Age: 41 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| exx wrote: | | PalermoCorey90 wrote: | | exx wrote: | | PalermoCorey90 wrote: | | bluto2000gs wrote: | LS= Likes Sleep 
Nice car!
Track times? |
no track times best guess is mid 13. random guess 13.4-13.7
raced a couple firebirds and mustangs GTs.with positive results |
Welcome.
I have a Mustang GT. Wanna race?  |
im track only after today  . but sure if were ever at a track at the same time sure. depending on ur mods of course |
Mods? I have an aftermarket "intake". 435/419 wheels.
Track? Unfortunately, not me.. I have a convertible, and since I refuse to cage it, I can't run. Anything faster than 13.49 and they make you have a roll bar. IMHO, ugly in a 'vert. |
It's a mustang, why are you worried about it getting uglier?  
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| exx Total posts: 291
2006 Other Car Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Lockport, NY Age: 48 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Strenz68 wrote: | | exx wrote: | | PalermoCorey90 wrote: | | exx wrote: | | PalermoCorey90 wrote: | | bluto2000gs wrote: | LS= Likes Sleep
Nice car!
Track times? |
no track times best guess is mid 13. random guess 13.4-13.7
raced a couple firebirds and mustangs GTs.with positive results |
Welcome.
I have a Mustang GT. Wanna race? |
im track only after today . but sure if were ever at a track at the same time sure. depending on ur mods of course |
Mods? I have an aftermarket "intake". 435/419 wheels.
Track? Unfortunately, not me.. I have a convertible, and since I refuse to cage it, I can't run. Anything faster than 13.49 and they make you have a roll bar. IMHO, ugly in a 'vert. |
It's a mustang, why are you worried about it getting uglier? |
Say what you will, but you obviously haven't seen it yet..
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| monte0 Total posts: 1144
keith1999 Other Car Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Location: gates Age: 46 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Corey! Whats your SN on regalgs? Nice regal btw 
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| PalermoCorey90 Total posts: 811
2007 Grand Prix GT Joined: 16 Jan 2009 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| monte0 wrote: | | Welcome Corey! Whats your SN on regalgs? Nice regal btw |
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| KC2GIW Total posts: 5563
Matt Antonio1998 Grand Prix GTX Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Location: SYR/ROC Age: 25 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff's car is cute, don't ya think guys?
The tech guys actually took a picture of him so they'd all know if he came back and tried to fool them.
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| Strenz68 Total posts: 416
Jonathan2007 Grand Prix GT Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Location: ROC City Age: 41 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I was just breakin balls. It does look pretty sharp, especially the pink paint job. Not sure about the windshield decal though...
You have a roll bar, I thought you only needed a full cage for like 11.50 and lower? |
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| mguzzo Total posts: 2863
Michael Guzzo1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Location: in front of you Age: 58 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:32 am Post subject: |
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it's not really a roll bar. it's more like an STB for the B pillars.
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| exx Total posts: 291
2006 Other Car Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Lockport, NY Age: 48 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| mguzzo wrote: | | it's not really a roll bar. it's more like an STB for the B pillars. |
Correct, not a roll bar. It provides VERY little structural support, and NO rollover protection. It's simply a dress-up part. I believe the correct name is a "convertible styling bar".
As for the cage - I need a 6-point roll bar. It need to have the bar behind the head, door bars, and then two rear-facing support bars.
11.50 might be the coupe roll-bar rule, though I thought it was 11.99.. |
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| Strenz68 Total posts: 416
Jonathan2007 Grand Prix GT Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Location: ROC City Age: 41 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Ahh, learn something new every day. I am not positive on the 11.5 for coupe needing a cage, but that is what I thought. Could be wrong. Have you tried talking to a shop about fabricating something custom that could be semi-hidden? |
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| exx Total posts: 291
2006 Other Car Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Lockport, NY Age: 48 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Strenz68 wrote: | | Ahh, learn something new every day. I am not positive on the 11.5 for coupe needing a cage, but that is what I thought. Could be wrong. Have you tried talking to a shop about fabricating something custom that could be semi-hidden? |
Actually, I did contemplate it. I did some research on shops with good word-of-mouth reputations (Torelli Pro Cars was one), and talked to them. No one wanted to touch it because it was so new and it was a show car. I FINALLY located a guy in Ontario, Canada. He said he could hide the upper hoop inside the styling bar, and I'd have to have the speedster cover cut to slide over the rear supports, and he'd do removable door bars. $2700 CDN. I'm not sure I want to spend that much on it for the handful of times it might actually see track duty.
It would just be nice to actually have a real NUMBER when people ask me how fast it is. All I know at this point is that there are several coupes on mustangforums.com that have the exact same mods I do, and their drivers are consistently seeing 12.1 - 12.2 on DRs. Probably have the good driver mod, too. Me? I would have to guess on DRs I might maybe see 12.6-7 on a good day (I don't have much seat time at the track). |
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| mguzzo Total posts: 2863
Michael Guzzo1998 Grand Prix GTP Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Location: in front of you Age: 58 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.nhra.com/contacts/tech_faq.html
| Quote: | When do I need a roll bar or roll cage, and what should it look like?
A roll bar is required in any convertible running 13.49 seconds or quicker in the quarter mile, and in other cars beginning at 11.49. The roll bar is accepted in vehicles running as quick as 10.00 second e.t., provided the stock firewall and floorboard is intact, other than for installation of wheel tubs. The rollbar must be constructed of minimum 1 ¾ inch o.d. x .118 inch wall mild steel tubing, or 1 ¾ x .083 chrome moly tubing, and must conform to the following diagram:
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| Scott P Total posts: 3173
Like, duh.2006 Other Car Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Waxlandia aka Houston, TX Age: 93 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Convertible Mustangs are faster because they have chick drivers.
The convertible is meant to be a cruiser, not a racer. The go fast mods end up being expensive engine dress-up parts. If you want to go fast and race, then stick with a coupe. If you want to enter a parade or watch The Notebook, buy a convertible.
Then again, I drive a rice burner four banger, so my opinion probably doesn't count for much. |
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| redross17 Total posts: 3600
Brian Ross2004 Grand Prix GTP CompG Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Location: Buffalo Age: 48 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott P wrote: | | Then again, I drive a rice burner four banger, so my opinion probably doesn't count for much. |
What about your crumpet munching, tea sipping convertible four banger? 
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